Comments on: Clarifying the Science Behind Global Cooling https://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/ Mon, 14 Mar 2022 10:29:16 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.0.16 By: flyingsirkus https://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1172 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:46:40 +0000 http://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1172 Arrrgh! No preview button!

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By: flyingsirkus https://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1171 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:45:16 +0000 http://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1171 I made you a LOLCat:

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By: chas https://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1170 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:49:13 +0000 http://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1170 ROTFLMAO! This is lovely, especially after seeing so many of the the zealots puffing their chests out taking themselves WAY too seriously. I’m gonna show this to one of my classes next week. Thanks for the best laugh I’ve had in days.

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By: ideonexus https://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1169 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:12:55 +0000 http://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1169 Actually SourSwinger, those are important things to consider in keeping a perspective on this graph and what it can and cannot say. We are examining variability, looking for a trend, but the Earth has been much hotter and much cooler in the past.

The chart in question (not my photoshopped charts (for visitors who don’t get satire)) is based on the HADCRUT 3 data, blue dots representing yearly averages of the data, the red line representing five-year averages.

The Zero baseline for temperature anomalies is an interesting one, as they use the average temperature from 1960 to 1990 rather than the average temperature for the whole chart. I’m not sure why they use that timeframe. It looks like using the whole chart’s average temp would set the zero lower, but then we’d have the problem of the zero climbing over the decades, putting 1980 below the average, and eventually 1990 if current climate models prove accurate over the next 100 years.

They have more up to date versions of the chart here, and an explanation for why January 2008 improperly temporarily skewed the graph here.

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By: Sour Swinger https://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1168 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:22:00 +0000 http://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1168 I’m wondering what exactly is that bar graph’s totals are based off of? The amount of time a cooling/warming period is in affect, or the temperature change seen in a cooling/warming period. I’m guessing time, in which case why not use temp difference?

So I’m a bit confused by that graph. What is the temperature side represent? Temperature change off a given base temperature? What’s that base temp? That seems an odd way to plot the graph considering earth’s temp has never stayed the same over the course of its history. Or am I wrong about that?

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By: ideonexus https://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1167 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:48:29 +0000 http://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1167 Ohhh… Good point. Bong hits are easier that photoshopping graphs! Occamz Razor afterall!

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By: Kav https://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1166 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:26:52 +0000 http://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1166 My comment seems to have got lost.

I think this is quite brilliant. I shall be referring to this post in all future arguments with AGW proponents. I used to be one but on the strength of this I have been converted to the truthiness!

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By: Kav https://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1165 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:25:33 +0000 http://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1165 My comment seems to have got lost.

I think this is quite brilliant. I shall be referring to this post in all future arguments with AGW proponents. I used to be one but on the strength of this I have been converted to the truthiness!

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By: Clint https://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1164 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:19:16 +0000 http://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1164 LOL! What is the measurement on that bong hit anyway? (For scientific purposes, of course.)

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By: flyingsirkus https://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1163 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:42:12 +0000 http://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1163 Hey, Mr. Smarty Scientist…you cut off the blue dot for the year 2000 in your first graphic (assuming the chart takes us to 2007). Such an omission of important scientific data renders your graphic completely useless to me, and therefore I will resume beating my head against this brick wall until such time as I see fit to either pass out or play more connect-the-dots. I personally think you could use your dot-connecting to better prove the existence of Nessie. You can kind of see her profile if you take a measured bong hit and look hard enough.

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By: Kav https://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1162 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:46:55 +0000 http://ideonexus.com/2008/03/26/clarifying-the-science-behind-global-cooling/#comment-1162 Absolutely fantastic post. Bravo!

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