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		<title>By: ClintJCL</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2008/07/01/science-etcetera-marsday-20080701/comment-page-1/#comment-10848</link>
		<dc:creator>ClintJCL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, saving pickle jars comes in handy sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, saving pickle jars comes in handy sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t remember buying sauerkraut by the bag and keeping it in jars when I lived with you, but Clint refreshed my memory.

We have a bag of sauerkraut in our fridge now.  Just need a jar...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t remember buying sauerkraut by the bag and keeping it in jars when I lived with you, but Clint refreshed my memory.</p>
<p>We have a bag of sauerkraut in our fridge now.  Just need a jar&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Nicko</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Nicko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had milk in bags in like, kindergarden. Or preschool.  Whenever I lived in texas, that is what we got at the school lunch.  Mmm, just stab a straw in and go crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had milk in bags in like, kindergarden. Or preschool.  Whenever I lived in texas, that is what we got at the school lunch.  Mmm, just stab a straw in and go crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: ideonexus</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2008/07/01/science-etcetera-marsday-20080701/comment-page-1/#comment-4436</link>
		<dc:creator>ideonexus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vicky,

This reminds me of Clint and Carolyn buying Saurkraut by the bag in college, and then keeping it in jars for costs savings. That&#039;s stuck with me because now I wish everything came in bags instead of plastic cases. Much more environmentally sound and less costly. Milk in a bag rocks! (Hypothetically, since I&#039;ve never been able to purchase it in person)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicky,</p>
<p>This reminds me of Clint and Carolyn buying Saurkraut by the bag in college, and then keeping it in jars for costs savings. That&#8217;s stuck with me because now I wish everything came in bags instead of plastic cases. Much more environmentally sound and less costly. Milk in a bag rocks! (Hypothetically, since I&#8217;ve never been able to purchase it in person)</p>
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		<title>By: ideonexus</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2008/07/01/science-etcetera-marsday-20080701/comment-page-1/#comment-4420</link>
		<dc:creator>ideonexus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Clint! My comment should read &quot;1,600&quot; not &quot;16,000.&quot;

: )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Clint! My comment should read &#8220;1,600&#8243; not &#8220;16,000.&#8221;</p>
<p>: )</p>
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		<title>By: Chriggy</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2008/07/01/science-etcetera-marsday-20080701/comment-page-1/#comment-4365</link>
		<dc:creator>Chriggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as Occam&#039;s razor goes, I can&#039;t believe how many managers don&#039;t believe in Occam&#039;s razor. 

My point of view(Occam&#039;s razor): &quot;We have six systems out there. Five of them work. One of them doesn&#039;t. They&#039;re identical. It must be something on the vehicle or the computer&quot;

Manager&#039;s point of view: &quot;It must be the software. If it&#039;s not we need to spend more money to prove that its the computer to justify buying a new computer&quot;(even though the man hours spent trying to do that will cost more than the computer)

FRUSTRATING!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as Occam&#8217;s razor goes, I can&#8217;t believe how many managers don&#8217;t believe in Occam&#8217;s razor. </p>
<p>My point of view(Occam&#8217;s razor): &#8220;We have six systems out there. Five of them work. One of them doesn&#8217;t. They&#8217;re identical. It must be something on the vehicle or the computer&#8221;</p>
<p>Manager&#8217;s point of view: &#8220;It must be the software. If it&#8217;s not we need to spend more money to prove that its the computer to justify buying a new computer&#8221;(even though the man hours spent trying to do that will cost more than the computer)</p>
<p>FRUSTRATING!</p>
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		<title>By: Vicky</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2008/07/01/science-etcetera-marsday-20080701/comment-page-1/#comment-4364</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Milk in a jug-- Up in Wisconsin and Minnesota, Kwik Trip convenience stores sell milk in a bag (with a complimentary pitcher).  If I recall correctly, they&#039;ve been doing it for decades.

I think they still have to ship that milk in the plastic crates (like mentioned in the Wal-mart article), but supposedly the &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kwiktrip.com/m_eatsanddrinks/naturestouch.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bag technology costs 10 to 15% less than jugs or cartons&lt;/a&gt;&quot; and they are more environmentally friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Milk in a jug&#8211; Up in Wisconsin and Minnesota, Kwik Trip convenience stores sell milk in a bag (with a complimentary pitcher).  If I recall correctly, they&#8217;ve been doing it for decades.</p>
<p>I think they still have to ship that milk in the plastic crates (like mentioned in the Wal-mart article), but supposedly the &#8220;<a href="http://www.kwiktrip.com/m_eatsanddrinks/naturestouch.asp" rel="nofollow">bag technology costs 10 to 15% less than jugs or cartons</a>&#8221; and they are more environmentally friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: ideonexus</title>
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		<dc:creator>ideonexus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

Sweet! Thanks for finding those. Totally creepy, just like the article describes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>Sweet! Thanks for finding those. Totally creepy, just like the article describes.</p>
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		<title>By: ideonexus</title>
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		<dc:creator>ideonexus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spugrab,

Thanks for the first-person account! I haven&#039;t seen these new milk jugs in person yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spugrab,</p>
<p>Thanks for the first-person account! I haven&#8217;t seen these new milk jugs in person yet.</p>
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		<title>By: ideonexus</title>
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		<dc:creator>ideonexus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand your skepticism Nicko. As Clint pointed out, since &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.car-accidents.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;42,000 people died in car accidents&lt;/a&gt; in 2005, that 16,000 number is probably an estimate based on the decline of people flying after 9/11.

I&#039;m certain the number is a rough estimate, but it does make the point that people will run from a perceived threat into an unperceived one. In this case, many people chose driving over flying, which is much more dangerous, but those 42k fatalities don&#039;t make the news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your skepticism Nicko. As Clint pointed out, since <a href="http://www.car-accidents.com/" rel="nofollow">42,000 people died in car accidents</a> in 2005, that 16,000 number is probably an estimate based on the decline of people flying after 9/11.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m certain the number is a rough estimate, but it does make the point that people will run from a perceived threat into an unperceived one. In this case, many people chose driving over flying, which is much more dangerous, but those 42k fatalities don&#8217;t make the news.</p>
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		<title>By: ClintJCL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ClintJCL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;ll give you that -- Occam&#039;s Razor is more of a rule of thumb to me. And as a rule of thumb, rules of thumb are only correct 80% of the time. (As a rule of thumb.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;ll give you that &#8212; Occam&#8217;s Razor is more of a rule of thumb to me. And as a rule of thumb, rules of thumb are only correct 80% of the time. (As a rule of thumb.)</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Nicko</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2008/07/01/science-etcetera-marsday-20080701/comment-page-1/#comment-4336</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Nicko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also Ryan! The 10th and final Y: The Last Man book was released today, I read it already, because it is more interesting than studying for a test.  So, I would think that the whole collection in 1 book form may be out in a year from now.

Good stuff though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also Ryan! The 10th and final Y: The Last Man book was released today, I read it already, because it is more interesting than studying for a test.  So, I would think that the whole collection in 1 book form may be out in a year from now.</p>
<p>Good stuff though.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Nicko</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ Nicko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I take back my earliest dislike for the article/book on the account of I had no idea the number of people who died in automobiles per year.  I can now assume cause they only say 1600, that some sort of research was behind that number).

But still, not sure if Occam&#039;s Razor is the best argument thing.  A lot of reasons for not wanting to fly could be equally possible in 2002, not just afraid of terrorists.  So, wouldn&#039;t say it is the simplest answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I take back my earliest dislike for the article/book on the account of I had no idea the number of people who died in automobiles per year.  I can now assume cause they only say 1600, that some sort of research was behind that number).</p>
<p>But still, not sure if Occam&#8217;s Razor is the best argument thing.  A lot of reasons for not wanting to fly could be equally possible in 2002, not just afraid of terrorists.  So, wouldn&#8217;t say it is the simplest answer.</p>
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		<title>By: ClintJCL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ClintJCL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a lot of what ifs. You ever heard of Occam&#039;s Razor?

And it never claimed &quot;killed all people who died in an accident&quot;.  Accidents are something like 40,000 a year, not 1600.

More drive + less fly = they drove because they didn&#039;t want to fly. Maybe not 100%, but definitely as a rule of thumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a lot of what ifs. You ever heard of Occam&#8217;s Razor?</p>
<p>And it never claimed &#8220;killed all people who died in an accident&#8221;.  Accidents are something like 40,000 a year, not 1600.</p>
<p>More drive + less fly = they drove because they didn&#8217;t want to fly. Maybe not 100%, but definitely as a rule of thumb.</p>
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