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	<title>Comments on: The Real Recycling Myth</title>
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		<title>By: MMMark</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2008/02/15/the-real-recycling-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-52263</link>
		<dc:creator>MMMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 00:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;The Swedish recycling policies, as Bylund describes them, place responsibility on the individual for their waste products.&lt;

This is sloppy English.  Consumers are responsible for the PRODUCTION of  waste products.  Government is responsible for the COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL of those waste products.  This is what the consumer pays taxes for.  When the government increasingly involves the citizen in the performance of a task the government is obliged to fulfill, it is shirking its responsibility and its duty.  It is also coercing the taxpayer twice:  Once, by extorting tax dollars at the point of a gun, and twice, by forcing the taxpayer to become involved in the job the taxpayer has already paid the government to do.  Far from &quot;plac(ing) responsibility on the individual,&quot; the Swedish recycling polices &quot;place&quot; EXTORTION AND SLAVERY on the individual.  Calling extortion and slavery &quot;responsibility&quot; is a perversion of the word&#039;s meaning, and calling gun pointing &quot;placing&quot; is as euphemistic as calling governmentally-imposed and monopolized garbage collection and recycling &quot;service.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;The Swedish recycling policies, as Bylund describes them, place responsibility on the individual for their waste products.&lt;</p>
<p>This is sloppy English.  Consumers are responsible for the PRODUCTION of  waste products.  Government is responsible for the COLLECTION AND DISPOSAL of those waste products.  This is what the consumer pays taxes for.  When the government increasingly involves the citizen in the performance of a task the government is obliged to fulfill, it is shirking its responsibility and its duty.  It is also coercing the taxpayer twice:  Once, by extorting tax dollars at the point of a gun, and twice, by forcing the taxpayer to become involved in the job the taxpayer has already paid the government to do.  Far from &quot;plac(ing) responsibility on the individual,&quot; the Swedish recycling polices &quot;place&quot; EXTORTION AND SLAVERY on the individual.  Calling extortion and slavery &quot;responsibility&quot; is a perversion of the word&#039;s meaning, and calling gun pointing &quot;placing&quot; is as euphemistic as calling governmentally-imposed and monopolized garbage collection and recycling &quot;service.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: ideonexus</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2008/02/15/the-real-recycling-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-958</link>
		<dc:creator>ideonexus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the main problem I have with your reasoning is that, without making trash-collection and recycling mandatory, it&#039;s much cheaper for people just to dump everything in their back yards. People who turn their yards into their own personal dumps impinge on the rights of their neighbors to live in a sanitary community in good health without rats and the bubonic plague.

I highly doubt you&#039;re suggesting we make trash disposal voluntary. It has to be mandatory. If it&#039;s going to be mandatory, then giving mandatory trash disposal over to private enterprise means those businesses will benefit from an artificially high market value for their services, because anyone who doesn&#039;t pay them goes to jail (Unless your suggesting businesses won&#039;t take advantage of the situation and give their coerced customers the fair market value.).

If trash collection is mandatory, and cannot be privatized because of this, then recycling must also be mandatory because it keeps the taxpayer-funded waste-management service cheaper for everyone. If your system is more expensive and inconvenient than our American system, then you need to take it up with your local government.

Making garbage disposal voluntary is unfeasible, and privatizing a consumer product the government mandates the use of is unjust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the main problem I have with your reasoning is that, without making trash-collection and recycling mandatory, it&#8217;s much cheaper for people just to dump everything in their back yards. People who turn their yards into their own personal dumps impinge on the rights of their neighbors to live in a sanitary community in good health without rats and the bubonic plague.</p>
<p>I highly doubt you&#8217;re suggesting we make trash disposal voluntary. It has to be mandatory. If it&#8217;s going to be mandatory, then giving mandatory trash disposal over to private enterprise means those businesses will benefit from an artificially high market value for their services, because anyone who doesn&#8217;t pay them goes to jail (Unless your suggesting businesses won&#8217;t take advantage of the situation and give their coerced customers the fair market value.).</p>
<p>If trash collection is mandatory, and cannot be privatized because of this, then recycling must also be mandatory because it keeps the taxpayer-funded waste-management service cheaper for everyone. If your system is more expensive and inconvenient than our American system, then you need to take it up with your local government.</p>
<p>Making garbage disposal voluntary is unfeasible, and privatizing a consumer product the government mandates the use of is unjust.</p>
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		<title>By: Colliding Softly &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More on the Recycling Myth</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2008/02/15/the-real-recycling-myth/comment-page-1/#comment-957</link>
		<dc:creator>Colliding Softly &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More on the Recycling Myth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in different forms in a number of places. I&#8217;ll quote one of the more clearly articulated commenters: The Swedish recycling policies, as Bylund describes them, place responsibility on the individual [...]</description>
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