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		<title>By: The $500,000 Climate Carny Scam &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2007/10/31/steve-milloys-ultimate-global-warming-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-10409</link>
		<dc:creator>The $500,000 Climate Carny Scam &#171; Greenfyre&#8217;s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] other deconstructions and commentary see Steve Milloy’s Ultimate Global Warming Challenge and The Ultimate Global Warming Challenge: A desperation Hail Mary Pass publicity stunt from [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] other deconstructions and commentary see Steve Milloy’s Ultimate Global Warming Challenge and The Ultimate Global Warming Challenge: A desperation Hail Mary Pass publicity stunt from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Science-Based Medicine &#187; Autism&#8217;s false prophets revealed</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2007/10/31/steve-milloys-ultimate-global-warming-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-10265</link>
		<dc:creator>Science-Based Medicine &#187; Autism&#8217;s false prophets revealed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] change &#8220;skeptics.&#8221; (Indeed, Steve Milloy is known for his famous and dubious &#8220;Ultimate Global Warming Challenge.&#8221;) Moreover, both have been accused of ties to the very tobacco companies to which Dr. Offit [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] change &#8220;skeptics.&#8221; (Indeed, Steve Milloy is known for his famous and dubious &#8220;Ultimate Global Warming Challenge.&#8221;) Moreover, both have been accused of ties to the very tobacco companies to which Dr. Offit [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TK</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2007/10/31/steve-milloys-ultimate-global-warming-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-8007</link>
		<dc:creator>TK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For everyone who likes a fight, here&#039;s some fun reading -- http://wizbangblog.com/content/2007/08/10/best-global-warming-story-ever.php

Oh, and for all those who are willing to change the world&#039;s behavior and economy based on current scientific trends, take a look at global cooling: http://www.denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm

Let&#039;s face it: Science can only tell us what scientists predict based on what they have observed SO FAR. The current global warming research is science. The current attempt to change our world to match today&#039;s computer models is just political hype.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For everyone who likes a fight, here&#8217;s some fun reading &#8212; <a href="http://wizbangblog.com/content/2007/08/10/best-global-warming-story-ever.php" rel="nofollow">http://wizbangblog.com/content/2007/08/10/best-global-warming-story-ever.php</a></p>
<p>Oh, and for all those who are willing to change the world&#8217;s behavior and economy based on current scientific trends, take a look at global cooling: <a href="http://www.denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm</a></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it: Science can only tell us what scientists predict based on what they have observed SO FAR. The current global warming research is science. The current attempt to change our world to match today&#8217;s computer models is just political hype.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ Nicko</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2007/10/31/steve-milloys-ultimate-global-warming-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-7974</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ Nicko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, do you want to use my account to look at University journals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, do you want to use my account to look at University journals?</p>
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		<title>By: ideonexus</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2007/10/31/steve-milloys-ultimate-global-warming-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-7967</link>
		<dc:creator>ideonexus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chriggy,

There is a movement in the scientific community for &quot;open-source science,&quot; but this is a new thing. Right now only PLOSOne is open-source. Want to see one of those articles the media is always talking about that appear in &lt;i&gt;Nature&lt;/i&gt;? It will cost you. Most journals are so expensive, individuals can&#039;t subscribe to them, only University Libraries, and many of those libraries won&#039;t let you look at them unless you&#039;re enrolled at the University.

I would love to read Nature or the AAAS publications, but they&#039;re beyond my budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chriggy,</p>
<p>There is a movement in the scientific community for &#8220;open-source science,&#8221; but this is a new thing. Right now only PLOSOne is open-source. Want to see one of those articles the media is always talking about that appear in <i>Nature</i>? It will cost you. Most journals are so expensive, individuals can&#8217;t subscribe to them, only University Libraries, and many of those libraries won&#8217;t let you look at them unless you&#8217;re enrolled at the University.</p>
<p>I would love to read Nature or the AAAS publications, but they&#8217;re beyond my budget.</p>
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		<title>By: Chriggy</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2007/10/31/steve-milloys-ultimate-global-warming-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-7689</link>
		<dc:creator>Chriggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to disagree with all of you here.

@ideonexus: Why is most &quot;peer reviewed&quot; research not publicly available? It seems it should be, seeing as most researchers want their studies published.

@Riggy Christ: I see no conflict between the rules. Rule 5 refers to the entry itself, while rule 6 refers to the data used to create the entry. You can create a unique entry while still using publicly accessible data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to disagree with all of you here.</p>
<p>@ideonexus: Why is most &#8220;peer reviewed&#8221; research not publicly available? It seems it should be, seeing as most researchers want their studies published.</p>
<p>@Riggy Christ: I see no conflict between the rules. Rule 5 refers to the entry itself, while rule 6 refers to the data used to create the entry. You can create a unique entry while still using publicly accessible data.</p>
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		<title>By: Riggy Christ</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2007/10/31/steve-milloys-ultimate-global-warming-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-7684</link>
		<dc:creator>Riggy Christ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears to me that rules 5 and 6 are in blatant contradiction with each other, making the challenge impossible to win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears to me that rules 5 and 6 are in blatant contradiction with each other, making the challenge impossible to win.</p>
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		<title>By: ideonexus</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2007/10/31/steve-milloys-ultimate-global-warming-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-7008</link>
		<dc:creator>ideonexus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that&#039;s how you want to interpret &quot;publicly accessible,&quot; but to my experience what you are describing is &quot;peer-reviewed research.&quot; Publicly accessible data is raw NASA measurements. Peer-reviewed research is mostly not publicly accessible. There&#039;s an important distinction.

Of course, you could be right. Who am I to question the integrity of a contest that makes you buy a shirt declaring how stupid you are for entering the contest in order to enter it? I&#039;m sure this is completely legitimate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that&#8217;s how you want to interpret &#8220;publicly accessible,&#8221; but to my experience what you are describing is &#8220;peer-reviewed research.&#8221; Publicly accessible data is raw NASA measurements. Peer-reviewed research is mostly not publicly accessible. There&#8217;s an important distinction.</p>
<p>Of course, you could be right. Who am I to question the integrity of a contest that makes you buy a shirt declaring how stupid you are for entering the contest in order to enter it? I&#8217;m sure this is completely legitimate.</p>
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		<title>By: John Galt</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2007/10/31/steve-milloys-ultimate-global-warming-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-6967</link>
		<dc:creator>John Galt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard about this challenge and googled it, then I found this website.  I had never gone to this man&#039;s website before but I decided to after reading your criticism.  Well, you very poorly misunderstood the rules of the contest.  Right below rule 5, rule 6 states that all data used must be publicly accessible.  So you CAN use all those thousands of studies.  By &quot;original work&quot; he means you cannot just copy and paste an entire paper by some scientist and claim it as your work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard about this challenge and googled it, then I found this website.  I had never gone to this man&#8217;s website before but I decided to after reading your criticism.  Well, you very poorly misunderstood the rules of the contest.  Right below rule 5, rule 6 states that all data used must be publicly accessible.  So you CAN use all those thousands of studies.  By &#8220;original work&#8221; he means you cannot just copy and paste an entire paper by some scientist and claim it as your work.</p>
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		<title>By: Great Site to get help with chemistry!</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2007/10/31/steve-milloys-ultimate-global-warming-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-2229</link>
		<dc:creator>Great Site to get help with chemistry!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 15:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Great Site to get help with chemistry!...&lt;/strong&gt;

What is a carbon molecule surrounded by 4 methyl groups called?...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Great Site to get help with chemistry!&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>What is a carbon molecule surrounded by 4 methyl groups called?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: US climate change plan 'disastrous and Neanderthal' - Page 7 - The Political Hotwire</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2007/10/31/steve-milloys-ultimate-global-warming-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1691</link>
		<dc:creator>US climate change plan 'disastrous and Neanderthal' - Page 7 - The Political Hotwire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a corporate “tool,” but more of a “Useful Idiot.” I wonder what that makes his audience?   ideonexus.com ? Blog Archive ? Steve Milloy&#8217;s Ultimate Global Warming Challenge    __________________ An insult is like wine - it only affects if accepted  R. A. Heinlein  Freedom [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a corporate “tool,” but more of a “Useful Idiot.” I wonder what that makes his audience?   ideonexus.com ? Blog Archive ? Steve Milloy&#8217;s Ultimate Global Warming Challenge    __________________ An insult is like wine &#8211; it only affects if accepted  R. A. Heinlein  Freedom [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Hyper Ass-Whupping Global Warming Arena Ruckus Spectacular Hootenanny &#171; ideonexus</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2007/10/31/steve-milloys-ultimate-global-warming-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1366</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hyper Ass-Whupping Global Warming Arena Ruckus Spectacular Hootenanny &#171; ideonexus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 09:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to be outdone by Steve Milloy, I&#8217;m offering a BAZILLION-JILLION DOLLARS (That&#8217;s more money than infinity!) to anyone [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to be outdone by Steve Milloy, I&#8217;m offering a BAZILLION-JILLION DOLLARS (That&#8217;s more money than infinity!) to anyone [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2007/10/31/steve-milloys-ultimate-global-warming-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1365</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I never heard of this guy, and now I hate him.  Good job!!!  This was frickin&#039; hilarious, and somehow oddly riveting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I never heard of this guy, and now I hate him.  Good job!!!  This was frickin&#8217; hilarious, and somehow oddly riveting.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
		<link>http://ideonexus.com/2007/10/31/steve-milloys-ultimate-global-warming-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-1364</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2/2007 already happened - think you got a date typo. (please delete this comment)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2/2007 already happened &#8211; think you got a date typo. (please delete this comment)</p>
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